
Just out of curiosity, what food are you refering to that you would put into your body? My point being, where do you draw the line on what is ethical to increase performance? If I were to take it to the extreme I could say that people who eat higher quantities of red meat or protein rich foods are cheating because they ingest more than the 'average' amount of protein, which helps them in recovery and building lean muscle mass.įor me the ethical divide on what should/should not be put into the body to increase performance has already been decided by a panel of sports medicine experts. Ultragen seems to help me recover from workouts and stack more back-to-back hard days in succession. water even in short 60-90min crits, I can tolerate it at high concentrations in high heat/humidity, and there are a number of great flavors. Very noticeable differences in races using EFS vs. Slightly OT I religiously use First Endurance EFS sports drink and Ultragen recovery drink. The other reasons were the cost ($50 - $75/mo) and the fact that popping pills feels dirty to me, regardless of the actual legality of the ingredients. I suspect that the whole thing could have been placebo, which is one reason why I stopped using it.

This was prior to owning a PM so my impressions are based solely on PE and HR and not what I consider quantifiable.

I have used both and I thought I could "rev" a little higher on sustained efforts and hold a higher heart rate for longer. ParisCarbon wrote:My understanding is you are *supposed* to load regular Optygen where as the Optygen HP and the newest one dont need to be loaded.
